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Thursday, March 13, 2008
Two Americas
By Cliff May
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Al-Qaeda and other militant Islamist groups live in a shadow world where they plot to kill you and me. If we expect our intelligence professionals to prevent them from succeeding, we must give them the tools required to get the job done.

But in recent days, Democratic leaders in the House of Representatives have not been providing those tools. They’ve been taking them away. There are rank-and-file Democrats who think this is wrong – but in an election year few have been bold enough to dissent loudly or clearly.

It doesn’t take Jack Bauer to understand: One way to gather useful intelligence on terrorism is by interrogating captured terrorists. Torture is illegal – in all cases without exception. But short of torture are a variety of interrogation techniques that seek to elicit information by inflicting stress and duress; by rewarding cooperation and punishing defiance. Such techniques are aggressive and coercive, to be sure, but they do not necessarily “shock the conscience” -- the commonly agreed definition of torture.

Last week, President Bush was presented with a bill that would have prohibited the CIA from utilizing such methods even in cases involving unlawful combatants believed to have knowledge of imminent terrorist attacks. Instead, the bill would have restricted the CIA to the mild interrogation methods authorized for soldiers in the U.S. Army Field Manual – a document terrorists can access, read and utilize for training purposes.

Bush promptly vetoed the bill, saying it would outlaw techniques that have been used in the past to “prevent a number of attacks.” Among them: assaults against a Marine camp in Djibouti and a U.S. consulate in Pakistan, and plots to fly passenger airplanes into buildings in Los Angeles and London.

The President emphasized that his objection to the bill was “not over any particular interrogation technique; for instance, it is not over waterboarding, which is not part of the current CIA program,” and which the CIA itself banned in 2006 -- having acknowledged that it had used the technique rarely, but successfully; for example on Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the architect of the 9/11 attacks.

An attempt this week by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to overturn the President’s veto failed. But Pelosi has continued to block House members from voting on an additional measure – a compromise bill, passed by a bipartisan 68 to 29 majority in the Senate -- to restore to American intelligence agencies the authority they formerly had to monitor foreign terrorist suspects abroad without first demonstrating “probable cause” to a judge -- a difficult standard to meet since many of those planning terrorism have not yet committed any crime.

The bill also would protect telecommunications companies from being sued for billions of dollars by plaintiffs’ lawyers for the “crime” of having cooperated with American intelligence agencies in the aftermath of 9/11/01. The telecoms provided data that could be “mined” for clues of coming attacks. Continued...

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Clifford D. May is the President of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracies.

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Subject: Still waiting for answers
1. If the telecoms did (are doing?) nothing illegal why do they need retro-active immunity?

2. Why is protecting the telecom corporations money more important than protecting American's lives? (Based on the well publicized assertion that without approval of the Protect America Act (PAA) American civilians will be killed.)

And a couple oldies but a goodies.....

3. How was it possible that the identities of those supposedly responsible for the planning and execution of the attacks carried out on 9-11-01 were known within an hour of the attacks and the validity of which was NEVER questioned?

4. With our immense, high tech, well trained and varied means of national defense from the Air Force to the National Guard to the Secret Service and every other "defense" related department how is it possible that known hijacked passenger planes flew for over an hour without even being close to being intercepted?

matthew, you are disqualified...
matthew writes: Thursday, March, 13, 2008 9:55 PM
Oh please
Nobody hear believes that there is a terrorist under their bed.

This is just politics....

If they really thought the end was near...

Our military would have over a hundred million volunteers..
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matthew, you are a thweet, thilly, limpwrist, effeminate homosexual who like anal 'sex.' That disqualifies you from presenting your opinions on this sort of thing. Go back to your cottage with the white picket fence surrounded by Baptist neighbors who just love you and your man.
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