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Wednesday, March 05, 2008
Debra J. Saunders :: Townhall.com Columnist
At War with History
by Debra J. Saunders
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"Now, I have to say, when it came to making the most important foreign policy decision of our generation, the decision to invade Iraq, Sen. Clinton got it wrong," Barack Obama said Sunday in response to a Clinton campaign ad that suggests only Hillary Clinton would be ready to answer a late-night emergency phone call to the White House. "She didn't read the National Intelligence Estimate. Jay Rockefeller (the present Senate Intelligence Committee chairman who endorsed Obama) read it, but she didn't read it.

"I don't know what all that experience got her, because I have enough experience to know that if you have a National Intelligence Estimate and the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee says, 'You should read this, this is why I'm voting against the war,' that you should probably read it. I don't know how much experience you need for that."

Obama is correct that Clinton failed to read the 90-page NIE report before voting to authorize the use of U.S. military force in Iraq in October 2002. But if you watched that clip, you likely would think that Rockefeller read the NIE, then, as a consequence, voted against the war. Wrong. The West Virginia Democrat read the NIE, then voted for the war.

Obama's campaign explains that Obama didn't get his facts mixed up. When Obama referred to the chairman of Senate Intelligence, he was referring to Bob Graham, the then-committee chairman who opposed the war.

CNN aired Obama's remarks more than once Monday without clarifying that Rockefeller actually voted for the war. While the New York Times reported on Rockefeller's pro-war vote, other news stories repeated the Obama quote without setting the record straight.

It seems Clinton has a point when she complains about Obama getting cushy treatment from the media. Because stories that didn't clarify Rockefeller's vote leave the impression that a senator who read the NIE would have voted against the war.

To the contrary, Rockefeller read the NIE and concluded, "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons" -- actually, the NIE language was less conclusive -- and that Hussein's "existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America." Continued...

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Subject: Lilly's Legalisms
Geo W went before Congress and the UN before acting against Iraq. Bubba did neither over Kosovo. He went to Brussels and took direction from NATO - no Congress, no UN. No attack on any one member, either. Hard to invoke that treaty, and yet it was carried out with a minimum of fuss.

Maybe it is the party affiliation that makes the difference.

lilly
judgment is also judgement, both are correct, look before you leap........

The US SENATE voted 72 to 23, more Democrats voted YES than NAY. Notwithstanding, Bush went back again to the United Nations Security Council AFTER the Senate and House had overwhelmingly passed on the authorization and a 17th condemnation was entered against Iraq for sustained and continued violations.

Clinton wasn't nearly as patient during his term when he unleashed a sustained bombing for 4 days.

Hillary was, for once, absolutely correct in her assessment. Obama had no standing at the time of the vote, any more than you or I did. Never has anyone done so little than the Junior Senator from Illinois, to have achieved so much.


I hope that someday your elevator makes it to the top, I can barely read your posts but they are, on the other hand, a great source of entertainment.

You sure know how to draw a crowd, just like a train wreck.
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